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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 3, 2009 4:42:21 GMT -5
Apparently MSN is already shutting down the other board. I was trying to add a receipe for bean dip on one of the threads, and keep getting the Sorry screen when I tried to respond.
and a variety of other places I had no difficulty with, the local TV station, CBS, Oregonian etc.
They said they were shutting it down in February, as well as broadcast TV is going down the same month. But I had hoped to have another month from both.
Yes I did get the goverment translator boxes for the TV's But they dont work at all well even with a roof top areal. According to PBS that has had a lot of feedback about them, high definition TV is a very narrow communication band, and it doesnt take much to break up the picture mid program.
One of the many places in the country that has no access to cable, and the dish subscription is $40 a month minimum here.
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Post by penn1 on Jan 3, 2009 8:25:28 GMT -5
Zuli - I am presently corresponding via e-mail with a local website concerning the changeover and I believe everybody is disgusted with the "new" digital reception. As you pointed out it does not take much to break up the picture. Station engineers say it is a matter of tower positioning to straighten it out. So far they are not having any luck with finding the right position as on my set it can be good during the day but goes bad by primetime. We have one station that has been off the air for over a week and the station engineer never even knew it was happening.
Makes me think about the saying "If it's not broke don't fix it".
Channel repositioning is also part of the change. No channels will be above 51 on your set. Any channel above 51 will receive a new number for digital reception.
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Post by Blue Clues on Jan 3, 2009 12:10:06 GMT -5
Apparently MSN is already shutting down the other board. I was trying to add a receipe for bean dip on one of the threads, and keep getting the Sorry screen when I tried to respond. I haven't had any problems with the MSN boards.
Are you using the spellcheck? Looks good.
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Post by PARTRIOTIC STAB on Jan 3, 2009 13:02:52 GMT -5
Zuli, I can't get in the other board either, its all crazy.
Anyway here is and excerpt from the WSJ about required withdrawals, age 70 1/2.
LEGISLATION APPROVED BY CONGRESS EARLIER THIS MONTH SUSPENDS RETIREMENT ACCOUNT DISTRIBUTION REQUIREMENTS FOR 2009. THAT MEANS YOU COULD ROLL OVER ASSETS FROM A TRAIDITONAL IRA TO A ROTH NEXT YEAR WITHOUT FIRST HAVING TO TAKE A MANDATORY DISTRIBUTION.MR sLOTT SAYS, IN OTHER WORDS, THE TAXES YOU PAY ON YOUR IRA ASSETS PRESUMABLY BEATEN DOWN VALUE WOULD ALL BE HELPING YOU GET THOSE SAVINGS INTO A ROTH.
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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 3, 2009 22:36:30 GMT -5
Penn
there has been quite a lot in the local central oregon news and Oregon PBS about rural areas without access to cable having difficuty with the change over to high definition TV reception. the explaination some have given is the broadcast band allocated to high definition television sites is extremely narrow, compared to analogue that had a much wider band.
if analogue wasnt focused precicely you might get some snow, fuzzyness but still a somewhat watchable picgture with usable sound.
but with narrow band high definition it tends to be all or nothing.;
it doesnt take much to cause it to break up, or local slang is it just falls completely off the cliff. Its nice if and when it works, but its all or nothing at all and easily broken up by nobody is quite sure what, where or why, not even the station people.
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Post by tabasco on Jan 8, 2009 8:04:48 GMT -5
I wonder why they did this in the first place? To what end are they working toward? It makes me want to shut down the cable tv that I do have but it's Larry's only entertainment.
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Post by penn1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:19:47 GMT -5
TC- To sell digital TVs and converter boxes. Anything to help the economy and screw the general public in the process.
Penn
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Post by patriotic on Jan 8, 2009 19:38:36 GMT -5
I had read it was to free up a lot of frequencies for other uses.
This is in the UK, but I'm sure its the same reason here.
Freeing up the TV frequencies
Existing transmitters will be modified to carry digital signals
To help fund the digital TV revolution, the government plans to sell off existing analogue TV frequencies. However, it might not be that straightforward.
Exactly what do you get? Digital Q&A Freeing up the bandwidth The technology: pros/cons Television frequencies are highly valuable assets and industry analysts estimate the government could make as much as £10bn from their sale.
The frequencies would be used mainly by telecommunications companies for mobile telephone transmission.
However, industry experts believe the switch over will not be without its problems.
Lots of channels - but is there enough space? At present, television stations are broadcast over four to five channels within an available range of 48 separate frequencies.
This is to avoid interference from neighbouring transmitters.
For instance, a transmitter in Oxfordshire might broadcast existing analogue television stations' output over frequencies 21 through to 26.
A neighbouring transmitter in Berkshire would then use different five channels, such as 27 through to 32, for the same stations.
This would stop the two transmitters from interfering with each other's output, in the same way as radio stations broadcast on different frequencies across the country, which is why drivers need to retune occasionally when driving long distances.
Does it add up?
The channels can carry both analogue and digital signals, depending on the transmitter technology used.
The new digital output will take up a further six channels - meaning a total of 11 channels would be transmitted from each of the UK's 11,000 transmitters if the five existing channels used now for analogue TV were bought by mobile telephone companies.
The pure mathematics of having 11 channels in use at one time would mean that in some areas where several transmitters overlap, it would be impossible to avoid duplicating channels on neighbouring transmitters - leading to interference.
Maring Cook, of the Digital TV Group, said: "To sell off existing analogue frequencies for other purposes, bearing in mind that it has to be interleaved amongst now established digital frequencies, will be very complicated."
Set-top boxes give digital access Mr Cook said that one way round it would be if the freed-up space on individual transmitters was sold to new local television stations, which only broadcast within a limited geographic area.
This would, however, be "very low-budget", he said.
"I'd like to see what services would go on to get this money", he said.
The switch over could also prove a financial problem for viewers.
While the government will only take existing analogue stations off air when 95% of housholds have access to digital TV, this does not take into account the many homes where the main television is digital-compatible but second or third sets are not.
To get round this, the government is thought to be looking at introducing a cheap digital box which would allow viewers to see existing free stations at a cost of no more than around £25.
But as well as buying digtal TVs or set-top boxes, viewers would eventually need new video recorders as well.
Existing videos can record digital programmes, but not while another digital programme is being watched.
However, as newer video recorders are likely to include digital capability, this should only affect people with a machine that is several years old when the switch over occurs.
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Post by colnick on Jan 9, 2009 18:11:54 GMT -5
New technology can be interesting if you are willing to put the $ and time into it.It has its limits.Many times figuring it out is more interesting than what you get after it's done.
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Post by colnick on Jan 10, 2009 18:25:43 GMT -5
Received a small tech item at Christmas,an atomic clock.receives signal from Fort Collins Colorado National Standards Institute with 75% accurate barometer that sits on desktop and works.Weather started going bad today picture went from clouds to black clouds and rain then back to grey clouds as barometer reading below adjusted accordingly.So far this tiny instrument is about as accurate as my tvweather person and all I need is two triple a batteries .Cool.
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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 16, 2009 9:12:21 GMT -5
Money/Money board is acting up again.
everything else, including here is O.K. including some semi exotic overseas early bird market stuff elsewhere.
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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 16, 2009 10:23:03 GMT -5
MSN said they were pulling the plug in February.
and this AINT February yet.
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Post by patstab on Jan 16, 2009 10:37:40 GMT -5
I can't get into it either. It just sits and churns and churns, thought it was the data line and now find out its not working. I think they are trying to get rid of us early.
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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 16, 2009 11:30:54 GMT -5
Anyway, patstab. I was over there to thank you for the copy of Vogue magazine. we had fun with it last night at Sisters, not one I noirmally buy, as usually Vogue is a bit far out for my tastes, Tammi, the consignment shop owner thought jewelry to coordinate with scarves was a possible idea. The difference between fancy knit sweater cuffs and mounting them as trim on bracelets was an interesting twist.
I think MSN is shutting money money down early?
Nobody at all came up over there this morning.
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Post by zuleima8 on Jan 16, 2009 11:58:23 GMT -5
Maybe its time to exchange e mail addresses as has been suggested on Money/Money a few days ago? Some people I really dont want to loose track of, tinv and her garden stuff, Tee4, TC and others. P
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